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		By: round or flat? &#8211; Wallflower Wonders		</title>
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		By: Sean Glatch		</title>
		<link>https://writers.com/flat-character-vs-round-character#comment-12957</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writers.com/flat-character-vs-round-character#comment-12956&quot;&gt;Sebastian Howard&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Sebastian,

Those are great questions! I do agree that Madame Defarge is a bit more complicated than a typical flat character--however, I wouldn&#039;t say she has all the traits associated with round characters. Her actions are predictable, and she isn&#039;t bestowed with the layers of nuance and self-contradiction that are typical of round characters. We never see her grapple with complexity, and her role in the story is simply as vengeful antagonist. What &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; complex are her motives for vengeance, so she still serves the novel by complicating the themes of class and conflict. As a result, she&#039;s kind of in the middle, and it&#039;s good to see flatness and roundness as ends of a spectrum, rather than concrete binaries. (We treat them as binaries for the purposes of this article, but I might amend that based on your comment!)

As for Poirot, I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ve read his final novel. But, he is a flat character in the vast majority of his novels, so all I can say is that &lt;em&gt;he usually functions as a flat protagonist&lt;/em&gt;. I&#039;ll have to read that novel some time!

In general, I agree with Alan Moore&#039;s insights on character complexity. Good and bad are highly subjective, and different readers bring different interpretations. Let&#039;s say, for example, you have a protagonist that&#039;s polygamous. One reader might think this makes them a bad person, because they&#039;re greedy and unfaithful. A different reader might say this is a positive trait, as they&#039;re not possessive and want their partners to remain free and untethered. Because people will fall into different camps, it&#039;s not enough to simply reduce traits to &quot;good&quot; or &quot;bad&quot; -- rather, we should treat characters with empathy and understand their traits and perspectives using the whole English lexicon.  

People in real life are neither wholly good or bad; those terms are subjective, the human experience is highly nuanced, and round characters allow us to sit inside that nuance and consider our own thoughts and morals.

You certainly don&#039;t need characters to be round for a story to be good--some of the best novels out there have flat protagonist. Many thanks for your comment!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writers.com/flat-character-vs-round-character#comment-12956">Sebastian Howard</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Sebastian,</p>
<p>Those are great questions! I do agree that Madame Defarge is a bit more complicated than a typical flat character&#8211;however, I wouldn&#8217;t say she has all the traits associated with round characters. Her actions are predictable, and she isn&#8217;t bestowed with the layers of nuance and self-contradiction that are typical of round characters. We never see her grapple with complexity, and her role in the story is simply as vengeful antagonist. What <em>is</em> complex are her motives for vengeance, so she still serves the novel by complicating the themes of class and conflict. As a result, she&#8217;s kind of in the middle, and it&#8217;s good to see flatness and roundness as ends of a spectrum, rather than concrete binaries. (We treat them as binaries for the purposes of this article, but I might amend that based on your comment!)</p>
<p>As for Poirot, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve read his final novel. But, he is a flat character in the vast majority of his novels, so all I can say is that <em>he usually functions as a flat protagonist</em>. I&#8217;ll have to read that novel some time!</p>
<p>In general, I agree with Alan Moore&#8217;s insights on character complexity. Good and bad are highly subjective, and different readers bring different interpretations. Let&#8217;s say, for example, you have a protagonist that&#8217;s polygamous. One reader might think this makes them a bad person, because they&#8217;re greedy and unfaithful. A different reader might say this is a positive trait, as they&#8217;re not possessive and want their partners to remain free and untethered. Because people will fall into different camps, it&#8217;s not enough to simply reduce traits to &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;bad&#8221; &#8212; rather, we should treat characters with empathy and understand their traits and perspectives using the whole English lexicon.  </p>
<p>People in real life are neither wholly good or bad; those terms are subjective, the human experience is highly nuanced, and round characters allow us to sit inside that nuance and consider our own thoughts and morals.</p>
<p>You certainly don&#8217;t need characters to be round for a story to be good&#8211;some of the best novels out there have flat protagonist. Many thanks for your comment!</p>
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		By: Sebastian Howard		</title>
		<link>https://writers.com/flat-character-vs-round-character#comment-12956</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok I&#039;m still kind of confused. For the character you&#039;re talking about in the tales of two cities story, the antagonist, you&#039;re saying that&#039;s not a round character because they&#039;re purely driven my revenge. However if we have the characters backstory and motivation and it comes across as realistic wouldn&#039;t that be a three dimensional round character rather than a flat? The only distinction I see is that she&#039;s purely motivated by revenge so even though she may come across as realaltic she&#039;s still not developed enough or explored enough to be a round character? In the case of poriot I think that&#039;s a bad example if you actually read the last poriot book as he becomes entirely rounded out and is much more explored in his last mystery as he&#039;s not even the main character in that one. I see people also use Sherlock Holmes as an example of a flat character but I&#039;m sure that there&#039;s other Holmes stories that flesh him out more but I get the idea of the them being flat for most of their stories as they&#039;re just solving things rather than being developed most of the time. 


I&#039;m assuming superheroes like spiderman and batman and such would be considered fully rounded out characters even though they&#039;re archetypes because they are fully explored and fleshed out. I was watching this video by Alan Moore on how to make three dimensional characters and he was saying that being a good guy or a bad guy equals one dimensional character and that adding a flaw equals two dimensional but three dimensional is someone who&#039;s not good or bad. I think that&#039;s entirely idiotic as you can obviously flesh out good guys or bad guys and explain why they&#039;re like that. What are your thoughts on the matter? 

I don&#039;t think you always need rounded characters to have good stories as I&#039;ve been reading short horror stories where the characters aren&#039;t that fleshed out but I still enjoy the stories. In one story there is a guy who kills his friend because he wouldn&#039;t give him a loan. He then buries the body at a beach in wintertime and then gets nervous about the body and ends up getting killed at the end. Now is this a flat character or a rounded character as it&#039;s explained why he killed the guy, their past together and his actions are what makes the plot happen and not vice versa. I&#039;d still lean on flat as he&#039;s not developed that much beyond what the story needs for us to know but I&#039;m not entirely sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I&#8217;m still kind of confused. For the character you&#8217;re talking about in the tales of two cities story, the antagonist, you&#8217;re saying that&#8217;s not a round character because they&#8217;re purely driven my revenge. However if we have the characters backstory and motivation and it comes across as realistic wouldn&#8217;t that be a three dimensional round character rather than a flat? The only distinction I see is that she&#8217;s purely motivated by revenge so even though she may come across as realaltic she&#8217;s still not developed enough or explored enough to be a round character? In the case of poriot I think that&#8217;s a bad example if you actually read the last poriot book as he becomes entirely rounded out and is much more explored in his last mystery as he&#8217;s not even the main character in that one. I see people also use Sherlock Holmes as an example of a flat character but I&#8217;m sure that there&#8217;s other Holmes stories that flesh him out more but I get the idea of the them being flat for most of their stories as they&#8217;re just solving things rather than being developed most of the time. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming superheroes like spiderman and batman and such would be considered fully rounded out characters even though they&#8217;re archetypes because they are fully explored and fleshed out. I was watching this video by Alan Moore on how to make three dimensional characters and he was saying that being a good guy or a bad guy equals one dimensional character and that adding a flaw equals two dimensional but three dimensional is someone who&#8217;s not good or bad. I think that&#8217;s entirely idiotic as you can obviously flesh out good guys or bad guys and explain why they&#8217;re like that. What are your thoughts on the matter? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you always need rounded characters to have good stories as I&#8217;ve been reading short horror stories where the characters aren&#8217;t that fleshed out but I still enjoy the stories. In one story there is a guy who kills his friend because he wouldn&#8217;t give him a loan. He then buries the body at a beach in wintertime and then gets nervous about the body and ends up getting killed at the end. Now is this a flat character or a rounded character as it&#8217;s explained why he killed the guy, their past together and his actions are what makes the plot happen and not vice versa. I&#8217;d still lean on flat as he&#8217;s not developed that much beyond what the story needs for us to know but I&#8217;m not entirely sure.</p>
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		By: Crank &#8220;Round or Flat?&#8221; &#8211; Site Title		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2022 15:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: 🖋 Writing Links Round Up 4/4 &#8211; B. Shaun Smith		</title>
		<link>https://writers.com/flat-character-vs-round-character#comment-12228</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2022 19:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Sean Glatch		</title>
		<link>https://writers.com/flat-character-vs-round-character#comment-9654</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writers.com/flat-character-vs-round-character#comment-9650&quot;&gt;Kaci Rigney&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Kaci, I&#039;m glad this helps!]]></description>
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<p>Thank you, Kaci, I&#8217;m glad this helps!</p>
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		By: Kaci Rigney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 20:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Definitely a worthwhile read! I need to round out my characters a little more. Thank you!]]></description>
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